3 Αυγούστου 2026

Η Apple κάνει λάθος εδώ

Φόρτωση…

Η Apple είναι μία από τις σπουδαιότερες εταιρείες όλων των εποχών και έχτισε τη φήμη της προσέχοντας με εμμονή ακόμη και την παραμικρή λεπτομέρεια. Δυστυχώς, αυτή η απρόσεκτη, επιθετική και παράξενα προσωπική αγωγή δεν ανταποκρίνεται σε αυτή τη φήμη.

Η Apple ισχυρίστηκε ότι επικοινώνησε με την OpenAI τον Φεβρουάριο και ότι εμείς δεν απαντήσαμε. Τώρα παραδέχεται ότι οι εξωτερικοί δικηγόροι της έστειλαν email σε λάθος άτομο, επειδή μπέρδεψαν δύο ασιατικά επώνυμα — και αυτό μόνο αφού της το επισημάναμε. Η Apple ισχυρίστηκε επίσης ότι είχε συνομιλήσει με τον Γενικό Νομικό μας Σύμβουλο, κάτι που τώρα παραδέχεται ότι δεν συνέβη ποτέ. Ωστόσο, αποκρύπτει ξανά ότι τότε δεν διατύπωσε ποτέ τους συγκεκριμένους ισχυρισμούς αυτής της αγωγής και ότι, στην πραγματικότητα, μας είπε πως «διευθετούσε τυχόν ζητήματα». Έπειτα, δεν ακούσαμε τίποτα για πέντε μήνες, μέχρι που κατέθεσε αγωγή. Στην τελευταία κατάθεσή της, η Apple προσπαθεί επίμονα να παρουσιάσει διαφορετικά αυτή την αλληλουχία γεγονότων, αλλά μπορείτε να διαβάσετε οι ίδιοι τα email εδώ⁠.

Η Apple κατηγορεί τον Chang Liu ότι απέκτησε πρόσβαση σε εμπιστευτικές πληροφορίες της αφού έφυγε από την εταιρεία, αλλά μόλις τώρα παραδέχεται ότι υπάλληλοί της επικοινώνησαν μαζί του και ζήτησαν τη βοήθειά του για να εντοπίσουν αυτές τις πληροφορίες (μπορείτε να διαβάσετε τα μηνύματα εδώ⁠). Η Apple προσπαθεί τώρα να αποδώσει την ευθύνη στην «εναπομένουσα πρόσβαση», αλλά δεν αποκαλύπτει ότι πρόκειται για συνηθισμένο πρόβλημα στην Apple, το οποίο προκαλείται επειδή δεν διαχειρίζεται σωστά την πρόσβαση στα συστήματα όταν αποχωρούν εργαζόμενοι. Στην πράξη, αυτό σημαίνει ότι πρώην εργαζόμενοι που προσπαθούν να πράξουν σωστά κατά την αποχώρησή τους εξακολουθούν να έχουν πρόσβαση σε αρχεία της Apple — παρότι ούτε τη θέλουν ούτε καν γνωρίζουν ότι την έχουν.

Η Apple κατηγορεί επίσης τον Tang Tan ότι προσπάθησε να αποκτήσει και να χρησιμοποιήσει εμπορικά της απόρρητα. Ωστόσο, ο Tang ήταν πάντα ξεκάθαρος με την ομάδα ότι δεν θέλουμε και δεν πρέπει να χρησιμοποιούμε καμία εμπιστευτική πληροφορία άλλων εταιρειών. Ο Tang εργάστηκε στην Apple για περισσότερα από 24 χρόνια και ήταν ευρέως γνωστός ως ένα από τα πιο καινοτόμα στελέχη της εταιρείας.

Θα θέλαμε η Apple να είχε θέσει αυτά τα ζητήματα υπόψη μας πριν καταθέσει την αγωγή της και θα τα διευκρινίζαμε ευχαρίστως μαζί της. Αντιμετωπίσαμε σοβαρά τους ισχυρισμούς της αγωγής και προτείναμε να συνεργαστούμε με την Apple για την επίλυση του ζητήματος. Αντ’ αυτού, προσπαθεί να αλλάξει το αφήγημά της, μεταξύ άλλων διατυπώνοντας αόριστες κατηγορίες για άλλους πρώην εργαζομένους, και πιθανότατα θα συνεχίσει να επαναλαμβάνει αυτή την τακτική.

Το αίτημα της Apple για προσωρινή διαταγή βασίζεται σε ψευδείς πληροφορίες και είναι εντελώς περιττό, καθώς ούτε κατέχουμε ούτε θέλουμε κανένα από τα εμπορικά της απόρρητα. Μας ενδιαφέρει πολύ περισσότερο να δημιουργούμε καινοτόμα προϊόντα και τεχνολογίες που διευρύνουν τα όρια του εφικτού.

Ενημέρωση 6 Αυγούστου 2026: Μπορείτε να διαβάσετε το αίτημά μας για απόρριψη της αγωγής εδώ⁠(ανοίγει σε νέο παράθυρο).

Ενημέρωση 1ης Σεπτεμβρίου 2026: Μπορείτε να διαβάσετε την αντίκρουσή μας στο αίτημα της Apple για προσωρινή διαταγή εδώ⁠(ανοίγει σε νέο παράθυρο).

Ενημέρωση 14 Σεπτεμβρίου 2026: Μπορείτε να βρείτε την απάντησή μας στο συμπληρωματικό υπόμνημα της Apple εδώ⁠(ανοίγει σε νέο παράθυρο).

Μηνύματα

Μηνύματα iMessage μεταξύ του Chang Liu (με μπλε χρώμα) και υπαλλήλων της Apple, στα οποία πρώην συνάδελφοί του ζητούν από τον Chang —του οποίου η τελευταία ημέρα στην Apple ήταν η 22α Ιανουαρίου 2026— να τους βοηθήσει να εντοπίσουν αρχεία και πληροφορίες για την εργασία τους στην Apple (όλες οι ώρες σε UTC). Σημείωση: τα ονόματα άλλων προσώπων και οι εμπιστευτικές πληροφορίες της Apple έχουν απαλειφθεί.

1/22/2026 4:43:19 PM

Hey [Apple Employee #1], i had something we need to discuss when you get to office.

1/22/2026 4:43:41 PM

OK. I can talk on the phone now if you like.

1/22/2026 5:48:02 PM

I am here at the office.

1/22/2026 9:39:14 PM

Around your desk

1/22/2026 9:39:34 PM

Be there in 4.

1/22/2026 9:44:34 PM

Do you wanna meet me at the coffee machine?

1/22/2026 11:25:45 PM

I found a 64GB drive. Do you think that will work>

1/22/2026 11:26:59 PM

I think 200 ish. We start from 64. Better than nothing

1/23/2026 12:41:56 AM

Still copying

1/23/2026 5:13:02 PM

Good morning. I hope you slept well. Maybe you are still sleeping 😊 I’m back in the office and restarting the airdrop as it didn’t work. My plan is to complete the airdrop and then click the sad button in workday.

1/23/2026 5:38:25 PM

Liked “Good morning. I hope you slept well. Maybe you are still sleeping 😊 I’m back in the office and restarting the airdrop as it didn’t work. My plan is to complete the airdrop and then click the sad button in workday.”

1/23/2026 5:39:51 PM

Thanks a lot [Apple Employee #1]. Was a very hard night last night. I really appreciate all the help and work together with you.

1/23/2026 5:41:09 PM

If you have time you can also try to airdrop all other file in my apple iCloud folder.

1/23/2026 5:42:22 PM

Those are mainly shared files from other people. I found important detail notes from time to time.

1/23/2026 5:42:59 PM

All the file folders [Redacted - Apple Information] are the file I generated as my personal note.

1/23/2026 7:32:19 PM

Your file transfer is a challenge.

1/23/2026 7:33:24 PM

Carlos Org Travel Summary Chang joined the spreadsheet. I think I’m going to have to hit the workday button before I’m complete. I just got a weird message that is making me nervous (see below), so I am going to go hit the workday button now.

1/23/2026 7:34:53 PM

I don’t even think I have that file

1/23/2026 7:35:03 PM

Maybe the new Chang

1/23/2026 7:35:20 PM

Yeah. . . it could be. No need for you to worry. 😊

1/23/2026 7:35:37 PM

That new Chang has big shoes to fill.

1/23/2026 7:36:18 PM

😟 for the transfer. I think the archive and [Redacted - Apple Information] has most of file for you to dig. Otherwise team can always start from something brand new

1/27/2026 1:45:26 AM

Hey [Apple Employee #1] hope everything is fine for copy pasting. You can keep my icloud connected if you still need more time. But might want to sign off my iMessage. As there might be my new company stuff showing up in that laptop.

1/27/2026 3:06:56 AM

Oh shoot. Sorry. Let me finish up tomorrow and log everything out. I won’t look at anything else.

1/27/2026 3:08:26 AM

Hey [Apple Employee #1], that’s totally ok. I am fine with you keep my icloud signed in for files. Just imessages might get you in trouble.

1/27/2026 4:35:30 AM

Do you recall any discussions on shipping [Redacted - Apple Information]? I thought the plan was to go for [Redacted - Apple Information] because [Redacted - Apple Information] is still not proven, but I don’t remember specific details. Of course, I could ask several folks, but you are the best. Even if you don’t work here anymore 😟

1/27/2026 4:35:46 AM

. . . of course [Redacted - Apple Information] is the plan for [Redacted - Apple Information]

1/27/2026 4:39:27 AM

Hahahah no prob

1/27/2026 4:39:47 AM

The decision is for all the product shipped in [Redacted - Apple Information] from a schedule standpoint.

1/27/2026 4:39:59 AM

Hence [Redacted - Apple Information]. And [Redacted - Apple Information] for [Redacted - Apple Information]

1/27/2026 4:40:30 AM

[Redacted - Apple Information] make a [Redacted - Apple Information] because of that [Redacted - Apple Information] ramp time.

1/27/2026 4:41:06 AM

[Redacted - Apple Information] (es in March) will [Redacted - Apple Information] prototype build but too late for [Redacted - Apple Information].

1/27/2026 4:42:29 AM

Awesome: I was thinking [Redacted - Apple Information] for [Redacted - Apple Information] and [Redacted - Apple Information] for [Redacted - Apple Information]. But since [Redacted - Apple Information] was pushed back then it should get [Redacted - Apple Information] also.

1/27/2026 4:42:41 AM

I think we are aligned 😊

1/27/2026 4:46:06 AM

Actually yes also [Redacted - Apple Information]

1/27/2026 4:46:27 AM

Sorry I missed that. [Apple Employee #8 name] from Austin team is already working on that

1/27/2026 4:47:07 AM

Liked “Actually yes also [Redacted - Apple Information]”

1/27/2026 4:47:10 AM

Liked “Sorry I missed that. [Apple Employee #8 name] from Austin team is already working on that ”

1/30/2026 5:54:31 PM

Hey [Apple Employee #1]! Hope you got all the material you need. Otherwise you might need to reach out to IST for some backup if they ever has

1/30/2026 5:54:41 PM

I rrealize the folder is gone from my iCloud

1/31/2026 1:34:07 AM

I just signed out of your iCloud account. When it asked me if I wanted to keep a copy of your stuff, I said NO.

1/31/2026 2:28:08 AM

Loved “I just signed out of your iCloud account. When it asked me if I wanted to keep a copy of your stuff, I said NO.”

1/31/2026 2:28:18 AM

Thank you sir!

1/31/2026 2:29:23 AM

This startup style company is a funny and will be very hard in a couple months😁😁

2/14/2026 1:38:13 AM

How is it going over there? Did they let you off work early on a Friday so you can go bowling and drink beer?

2/14/2026 1:38:25 AM

. . . . or are they going to work you until 10pm?

2/14/2026 1:39:47 AM

Just in case you don’t have enough work, I need some help. I have a vague recollection of you talking about a [Redacted - Apple Information]. Can you give me a brief refresh of this and point me to an EE who may have some knowledge?

2/14/2026 1:41:25 AM

大笑「Just in case you don’t have enough work, I need some help. I have a vague recollection of you talking about a [Redacted - Apple Information]. Can you give me a brief refresh of this and point me to an EE who may have some knowledge?」

2/14/2026 1:41:51 AM

This place is crazy… hahahah we use Ai all over the place

2/14/2026 1:42:21 AM

I can always give you some fun side projects

2/14/2026 1:44:17 AM

I think what you referred to is [Redacted - Apple Information]. And the small [Redacted - Apple Information].

2/14/2026 1:44:41 AM

The problem is the people is also in my court now 😁😁

2/14/2026 1:45:00 AM

Plus if [Apple Employee #9] might still remember anything

2/14/2026 1:47:39 AM

Liked “I can always give you some fun side projects”

2/14/2026 1:52:30 AM

[Redacted - Apple schematic] Bummer. . . you should have filed a [Redacted - Apple Information] with the details and put that next to the [Redacted - Apple Information] on the schematic. Now you owe me a beer.

2/14/2026 1:53:43 AM

oops now it can only become a [Redacted - Apple Information] saying now we never know why 😁😁

2/14/2026 3:12:57 AM

Now when I think about it. The other smart people also just left that team. The one that might still in apple is [Apple Employee #10]

2/14/2026 3:13:12 AM

Or if you have a more specific question

3/5/2026 9:23:11 PM

chang: if I understood correctly, you said that the [REDACTED - Apple Information] powers a downstream [REDACTED - Apple Information] that then powers [REDACTED - Apple Information]. Is that right? Who should I contact about that [REDACTED - Apple Information]?

3/5/2026 9:35:19 PM

A few things you can look for. In our team box folder/[REDACTED - Apple Information]/. There should be a [REDACTED - Apple Information]. And there is a power block diagram to show the [REDACTED - Apple Information]. Or find [Apple Employee #5] to get the [REDACTED - Apple Information]. Contact is [Apple Employee #6]and [Apple Employee #7]. [REDACTED - Apple Information] need more sensitive for [REDACTED - Apple Information] than current design. Hence they need to rise [REDACTED - Apple Information]

3/5/2026 9:35:59 PM

Hi [Apple Employee #1 Name], [Apple Employee #3 Name], I can help get the conversation with [Apple Employee #6] and [Apple Employee #7] started

3/5/2026 9:37:28 PM

Hi, this is highly irregular, please remove me from this thread

3/5/2026 9:44:21 PM

Thanks Chang. [Apple Employee #2 Name] and [Apple Employee #3 Name] I put you on this thread for awareness. Let’s continue our discussion internally.

3/5/2026 9:50:48 PM

Liked “Thanks Chang. [Apple Employee #2 Name] and [Apple Employee #3 Name] I put you on this thread for awareness. Let’s continue our discussion internally.”

Αλληλογραφία μέσω email

Τα παρακάτω email ανταλλάχθηκαν μεταξύ του Gabriel Gross, εξωτερικού νομικού συμβούλου της Apple, του Che Chang, Γενικού Νομικού Συμβούλου της OpenAI, και της εσωτερικής νομικής υπηρεσίας της Apple. Δείχνουν ότι ο Gross έστειλε κατά λάθος email στον Che και ισχυρίστηκε ανακριβώς ότι οι δυο τους είχαν συνομιλήσει. Τόσο ο Gross όσο και η εσωτερική νομική υπηρεσία της Apple επιβεβαίωσαν στη συνέχεια ότι επρόκειτο για λάθος, ενώ ο Gross σημείωσε ότι «διευθετούσαν τυχόν ζητήματα». Οι συγκεκριμένοι ισχυρισμοί της αγωγής της Apple δεν διατυπώθηκαν ποτέ και δεν υπήρξε καμία περαιτέρω επικοινωνία πριν από την κατάθεση της αγωγής πέντε μήνες αργότερα.

From: Gabriel Gross

Date: Monday, February 23, 2026 5:53 PM

Subject: Former Apple Employees at OpenAI Retaining Non-public, Confidential, and Proprietary Information

To: <redacted> <redacted>

Dear Mr. Chang:

Please see the attached letter and let me know when you are free to discuss it.

Yours,

Gabriel Gross Partner Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP <redacted> <redacted> <redacted> Direct <redacted> Mobile

The information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by email, <redacted> and destroy the original message. Thank you.

Attachments:

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2026.02.23 G. Gross letter to <redacted> Wang(101156327.1).pdf (225K)
Ex. A.pdf (491K)
Ex. B.pdf (91K)
Ex. C.pdf (1646K)

From: Gabriel Gross <redacted>

Date: Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 6:06 PM

Subject: RE: Former Apple Employees at OpenAI Retaining Non-public, Confidential, and Proprietary Information

To: <redacted> <redacted>

Dear Mr. Chang:

Thank you for your phone call just now and for offering your cooperation so quickly. I will be back in touch after speaking with Apple. I realize I neglected to include the three attachments when I sent you my letter, so I am re-sending it with the attachments for your records.

Yours,

Gabe

From: Che Chang <redacted>

Date: Feb 23, 2026, at 8:04 PM

Subject: Re: Former Apple Employees at OpenAI Retaining Non-public, Confidential, and Proprietary Information

To: <redacted>

Hi [Apple in-house legal counsel] and [Apple in-house legal counsel],

This guy from Weil claims to be representing you. For some reason, he is lying about speaking with me on the phone. I don't know who he is and we have never spoken.

I don't know what the point of his lie is, but could you please confirm if he is actually representing you, and if so, whether you have other counsel you can use. I don’t think interacting through him is appropriate given this behavior.

If this isn’t the right Apple team, could you let me know who might be? Thank you.

Che

From: Gabriel Gross <redacted>

Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 11:22 AM

Subject: RE: Former Apple Employees at OpenAI Retaining Non-public, Confidential, and Proprietary Information

To: <redacted> <redacted>

Dear Mr. Chang:

I write to follow up on my email and letter from yesterday. After I emailed you around 5:53 p.m. yesterday, I inadvertently also sent you another email around 6:07 p.m. that was intended for <redacted> Wang, one of the former Apple employees at issue. After we had emailed Mr. Wang yesterday about retaining Apple information, he promptly called me and offered to cooperate with Apple in resolving any issues. I then intended to email him again, but accidentally replied to my email chain with you instead. I apologize for the confusion that likely caused.

Yours,

Gabriel Gross Partner Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP <redacted> <redacted> <redacted> Direct <redacted> Mobile

Gabe

From: [Apple in-house legal counsel] <redacted>

Date: Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 8:45 PM

Subject: Re: Former Apple Employees at OpenAI Retaining Non-public, Confidential, and Proprietary Information

To: Che Chang <redacted>; Cc: <redacted> <redacted>, <redacted> <redacted>, <redacted> <redacted>

Hi Che,

Wanted to make sure to get back to you. Weil is our counsel on this matter, and I believe they should have contacted you explaining the miscommunication. Please feel free to direct any additional questions their way.

Thanks,

[Apple in-house legal counsel]